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With that in mind, he started a thread on OLH calling the cigars fake, and wanting a refund.
For aes8's side, the cigars were obtained from a known vendor that he (and others) have worked with for decades, and there has been no known implications of them dealing in counterfeit cigars. It was also noted in the thread that sometimes the old bands are used, even when they are not supposed to be, and there is variance in the taste of cigars (not to mention preconceptions.
With that summation, here are some pictures of the cigars in question:
The clasp, and other packaging seems right on, and does appear to be authentic.
The cigars themselves do indeed use the older-style Montecristo band that is not raised; the bands are not fake, they are real Montecristo bands, the problem is that these bands were discontinued in 2006, and the Sublimes are from 2008.
The wrapper, triple cap, and construction all looks good.
The cigars appear to be properly rolled, and do not exhibit the excessive veins and discolored tobacco that is often present in fake cigars. The tobacco is properly "booked" and the cigars do not appear to be over or under-filled.
The cigars are also self-consistent in terms of being the same ring gauge, the same length, similar color wrapper, etc.
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